Sadiq’s Owen Smith Email: My Response

Sadiq

Thank you for sending me your email in which you attempt to explain your changed position on the Leadership from adamantly neutral to pro-Smith.

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I’m glad you acknowledge the hard work that was done on your behalf which helped deliver your resounding victory, much of which was carried out by Corbyn supporting Labour members. I’m pleased you also say you felt humbled by your win, as you should do.

You say you didn’t play a part in this summers turmoil. On the face of it, this would make sense as you are no longer an active member of the PLP since becoming mayor. However I wonder how detached you managed to remain from a PLP of which you were once such an active member. We all knew you were very much a part of the old way of doing things, and that being the case probably supported Smith over Corbyn. But that only made us respect your neutrality all the more. Now that respect has gone. You have been lumped in with all the other MPs who have a vested interest in Corbyn failing. MPs who have made such a hoohah of the fact he cannot win with a socialist agenda they appear to have locked themselves into proving he can’t, which means sabotaging his leadership.

I’ve listened with interest to the reasons you give for opposing Corbyn’s leadership in your TV interviews, and all you offer is the old tired mantra about Jeremy being unelectable. But Jeremy has not been given a chance to prove his electability (aside from 4 by-election wins, 4 significant mayoralty wins and finishing ahead of the Tories in the local elections after being 6 points behind in May’s General Election). The British people have been denied the opportunity of fully appreciating the policies that will be on offer under our renewed and refreshed Labour Party due to the repetitive negative briefing against Jeremy’s leadership since he won. You state it’s time we stopped fighting eachother and started fighting the Tories, yet Jeremy has never had the benefit of having a fully supportive party behind him fighting the Tories, which was a disgusting position for the PLP to take. The way they have put their own self interests, pride and arrogance ahead of the ordinary struggling people of this country has been a betrayal of the worst kind, and it’s one I and many others will never forget.

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In fact you directly benefitted from the never ending threats and plots against Jeremy’s leadership. Many Corbyn supporting Labour members worked tirelessly on your campaign: yes, because they wanted to secure a Labour victory, and yes, because they were disgusted by Goldsmith’s dog whistle rhetoric, but also to secure Jeremy’s position as leader against a coup which your loss would have undoubtedly triggered. Now you reward them by spitting on them, albeit figuratively.

As a member of at least twelve pro-Corbyn Facebook groups the response to your endorsement of Smith has been unanimous. Let me share a few examples that best sum it up. “Plummeted in my estimation.” “Just another liar.” “Why has he entered into this? The job of mayor is to remain neutral and support the people of his city.” “I will remember that Khan isn’t to be trusted.”

Based on these and hundreds of reactions like it, your intervention won’t have changed many minds. But I’m sure you know that. This is about weakening Jeremy Corbyn’s position as leader after he wins, for its becoming increasingly clear you and your friends are planning to set up your own party within our party. Why? To ensure a Labour defeat at the next General Election of course. Anything to make sure Jeremy Corbyn never becomes prime minister. You won’t succeed however, for we are many and you are few and our determination outweighs yours a thousand fold. Working toward a better world for everyone tends to do that to people.

Regards

Chelley Ryan

P.S. I’d like to suggest a name for the new party within the party:  ‘Corporate Labour.’ The party that works hard to maintain a status quo that suits big business at the expense of the rest of us.

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48 comments

  1. Mr . Joseph Kelly · August 21, 2016

    Fully agree, Sadiq Khan states”Its time we stopped fighting amongst ourselves and started fighting the Tories. ” So why doesn’t he and the so called Labour MPs who resigned shadow cabinet posts get behind Jeremy who has the backing of the grass roots membership ? Otherwise perhaps they should consider joing them.

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    • Grace Benson · August 21, 2016

      I was really shocked to learn of Kahns choice an hour ago. My main question being why to promote the failing labour contender? would he rather be part of a sinking tradition than involved in the exciting new and fair leadership I’m looking forward to? If that the case I’m glad he’s gone. Everyone seems to be taking their positions. I believe Jeremy is so supported now that we will outstrip even such a splintering Labour Party and have we will eventually have clarity.

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  2. D Leggett · August 21, 2016

    Here, here! Absolutely spot on!

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  3. Juliette emery · August 21, 2016

    I believe you express the feelings of many people whom, I also, share groups with. I note, alongside your review of the commentry that many hundreds of thousands of people who live outside the Capitol really do not have no shock at the decision as they all felt that this was the ultimate goal set by ‘Kahn of the Right’. He too, will have learned from his master Blair and will be serving his apprenticeship to the corporations and banks. We are many, they are few 🌹

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  4. Catherine davidson · August 21, 2016

    Very well said chelly . Its really disgusting i would not trust either him or smith to take my dog a walk.

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    • pointis · August 21, 2016

      Hi Catherine, if you would be worried about Smith or Khan beating your dog, I wouldn’t! I don’t think either of them will be “beating” anybody in the near future!

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  5. Maureen Cooper · August 21, 2016

    Couldn’t agree more, I’m very disappointed that Sadiq has chosen to make this declaration for the no-hoper Smith.Maureen Cooper

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  6. jeanid123 · August 21, 2016

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  7. Sandra Paynter · August 21, 2016

    So well put Chelley. He’s a turn coat. I knew one day this would happen because Sadiq didn’t want JC at his victory party.

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  8. violetdragonlady · August 21, 2016

    Reblogged this on the diplomatic democratic dragoness and commented:
    Very well written and probably more diplomatic than I could ever be

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  9. Ally · August 21, 2016

    Brilliant response. I can’t wait to receive my email. I will be pointing out similar facts to Sadiq Khan.

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  10. Margaret Kean · August 21, 2016

    Well said. Couldn’t agree more. He is Labour in Tory clothing!!!

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  11. Jonathan Spurling · August 21, 2016

    Yes I fully agree with the original response and am very unhappy with how JC has been treated generally. It seems that there a total lack of respect from some quarters in the party for the Labour membership and their views! There should not even be a leadership election when we have a leader who was elected with a massive mandate and has helped increase an active membership.

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  12. David lowton · August 21, 2016

    Well done Chelley. Exactly what I wanted to say. Khan and his cronies will only destroy the Labour Party and themselves, however some will have jobs lined up in the city and jobs with their tory friends. We the members and supporters will have to pick up the pieces.

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  13. Linda foord · August 21, 2016

    You speak for many Chelley. Thankyou
    The wisdom of the saying ‘what don’t kill you, makes you stronger’ for me takes on a new and profound meaning. With every nail these shameless cowards try to nail into JC’s Leadership, as you rightly say, our dertermination grows and becomes a thousand times greater for this thoroughly decent human being to lead our Party. Khan and his shameless backstabbing crew will be consigned to the darker side of humanity…..some may forgive them, but their treachery will never be forgotten!

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  14. Veronica Sokoya · August 21, 2016

    Sadiq khan have just reaffirmed the rear qualities embedded in the character of Jeremy Corbyn which are CONSISTENCY and total COMMITMENT to Labour Party’s CORE VALUES which enable us to clearly distinguish the differences between the two major Parties. #keepJeremyCorbyn

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  15. Peter Cave · August 21, 2016

    Thank you, Chelley – I guess I should write something similar. It does irritate me to keep on hearing how Corbyn is so ‘unelectable’ when, of course, the people saying that seem to be the ones who want to make that prophecy come true, by saying it. Let’s hope that this time saying something that is initially false will not make it true.

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  16. Dominic Trounce · August 21, 2016

    Fantastically well put. Couldn’t agree more.

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  17. Ella · August 21, 2016

    Really well written! I hope Khan is sleeping fitfully over his bad decision.

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  18. I agree, there is no room for infighting, time for the MP’s to get behind the leader the members want. Isn’t that democracy? Thank you Chelley, agree100%.

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  19. pointis · August 21, 2016

    Well done Chelley, you expressed what a lot of very disappointed people are feeling. I think Mr Khan and many of the PLP are divorced from the majority of Labour supporters on the ground and are arrogant to think that they should know best for the rest of us. They don’t. I read a tweet today that summed up beautifuly what it felt like to see what Mr Khan had done, the writer said it was “like watching your dad punching your grandad full square on the face”.

    That is an injustice and when decent people watch unwarranted injustices perpetrated against an inherently decent man they get angry but they also get more determined to protect the victim and it makes them wonder how corrupted these people have become with power.

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  20. John F · August 21, 2016

    The struggle for Socialism was never going to be easy. The battle is on and has only just begun. We will continue to be let down by many of those that have only used the party to massage their own egos

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  21. steve · August 21, 2016

    I didnt know until today for example that he has taken donations from offshore property companies who will almost certainly be in direct opposition to any Socialist orientated development plans that may threaten the high cost of property in the Capital. How does he square that circle. Had he not done what hes done regarding support for Corbyn I would have been blissfully unaware. I shall now take a different view of this man. I also wasnt aware that he Kept a date with Murdoch. All this negative press for Khan wont necessarily remove him before his term, but without the Corbynistas. (even saw a pic of Corbyn on his phone bank) and the liikelihood of other negative revelations , which I have no hesitations in passing on now, I am sure that the honeymoon period he has enjoyed is well and truly over and now he will have to contend , not only with Tory onslaughts but as labour members we only giving him passive support, which doesnt include voting as we can abstain without being disenfranchised by the NEC

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  22. connorwebster1 · August 21, 2016

    You’re a Member of the Facebook Group that supporters abuse of LP members?

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  23. connorwebster1 · August 21, 2016

    We already have a party within a party it’s called Momentum! This blog gets worse and worse line by line right down to that last line.

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    • Susan Russell · August 22, 2016

      Momentum is not “within” the Labour Party. I think the party within the party is called Progress. In my view this is the organisation that is causing the turmoil. I believe Mr Khan is involved with it.

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      • connorwebster1 · August 25, 2016

        Progress is a small group on the right of the party. Momentum is setting up branch across the UK to take over CLP’s and then deselect those who have Labour MPs that don’t support, It also has it’s own conference.

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  24. connorwebster1 · August 21, 2016

    Some Facts for you: Corbyn has negative approval ratings in London, many anti-Labour Corbyn fans voted for George Galloway & Green, Corbyn lost 21 seats in May and our % of the vote went down.

    In order to win a GE we should have gained over 100 seats in May and had well over 40% of the vote. If we carry on the way we have been going since last September we will lose 100 seats but, I’m sure you will find someone to pin the blame of this onto that isn’t Corbyn or his followers.

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    • S TUCKER · August 22, 2016

      connorwebster1: I think you rather overstate the case: clearly just another disgruntled Blairite (I don’t have a vote, so I can use offensive terms). Corbyn’s Labour out-performed Milliband’s Labour significantly. Four mayoralties; 4 by-election wins with increased shares of the vote, clawed back from UKIP in the main. As Corbyn has retained his calm and dignity in the face of treachery, insult and an astonishingly biased media, so his popularity around the country has grown and, despite the on-going treachery and media bias, the poll figures are improving as Corbyn’s victory in the leadership election becomes more certain. Oh, and don’t forget the fact that Labour is now a mass-membership organisation: bigger than all other UK political parties put together and the largest in Europe: all down to the “unelectable” Jezza

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      • connorwebster1 · August 25, 2016

        Anyone who doesn’t support Corbyn is “disgruntled Blairite” (btw, the fact that you don’t have a vote in the upcoming leadership election does not give the right to abuse people who don’t support Online). Corbyn’s lead Labour lost 21 seats in May & our vote share went down by 6% (can’t compare to 2015 as different seats were up for election). The 4 by-election wins which Corbyn fans keep bringing up as evidence that he is electable were in safe Labour seats and you expect the opposition party to do better in by elections. You the point of UKIP all polls show that UKIP voters are going to the Tories after Brexit.

        After #Traingate Corbyn hasn’t got much dignity. The media has been bias to Labour before he was elected, all Labour leaders have to face it, if he can’t he should stand down.

        Where are you poll figures that show Corbyn is becoming more popular?

        Labour is not the biggest political party in Europe. The Tories won the last election with 150k members and another problem is most Labour Party members refuse to campaign for Labour.

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  25. got2see · August 21, 2016

    Very well written – You have expressed my thoughts exactly.

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  26. Mark Catlin · August 21, 2016

    Reblogged this on Mark Catlin's Blog and commented:
    Corporate Labour……MP’s caring about furthering careers, ensuring profits and ignoring constituents………..

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  27. dainagregory · August 21, 2016

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  29. Damon Ness · August 22, 2016

    Hear, hear

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  30. concernedkev · August 22, 2016

    ” The working class can kiss my ass I’m now the London Mayor at last ”
    Remind me Sadiq not to ask you for any tips on who to back in a one horse race. Or is this e-mail like others being sent out designed to entrap members into making comments that could get them barred from voting??????

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  31. l8in · August 22, 2016

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  32. roseeastRose East · August 22, 2016

    Brilliant letter. I think you are right about them wanting Jeremy to fail because they are intending to start their own party. I loved the name – Corporate Labour.

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  33. Jamie M · August 22, 2016

    “I’m glad you acknowledge the hard work that was done on your behalf which helped deliver your resounding victory, much of which was carried out by Corbyn supporting Labour members. I’m pleased you also say you felt humbled by your win, as you should do.”

    Where is the evidence that Khan won because of Corbyn supporters (most of whom are recent members and are less likely therefore to have been involved in campaigning)? Rather than despite the incredibly negative opinion polls for Corbyn (polling far worse than Miliband did). If Corbyn was able to win a general election (polls suggest he has about as much chance of winning Olympic Gold in 2020 as the GE) then most PLP MPs would support him, and I for example, who am as left-wing as Corbyn economically (though think he is very muddled about security issues and foreign policy, was woeful in regard to Brexit and is a poor leader) would gladly support him if I thought he’d beat the Tories. But the polls so he will not.

    “As a member of at least twelve pro-Corbyn Facebook groups the response to your endorsement of Smith has been unanimous. Let me share a few examples that best sum it up. “Plummeted in my estimation.” “Just another liar.” “Why has he entered into this? The job of mayor is to remain neutral and support the people of his city.” “I will remember that Khan isn’t to be trusted.””

    Loyal Corbyn supporters critical of someone who criticises Corbyn. Gosh what a surprise! The fact that the author feels this is significant is, it seems to me, symptomatic of the perception among many Corbyn supporters that because he is popular with them (very popular – but probably no more so than IDS was with Tory members and almost certainly less popular than Farage would be with UKIP members) then this will ensure electoral victory. It is basic arithmetic to see that this is total folly. The only real indication we have is the opinion polls which consistently show Corbyn as extremely poorly regarded as a potential PM by the British public. Bi elections, locals and mayorals give a fairly ambiguous reading (the big cities have nearly always gone to Labour and Corbyn did much worse than Miliband in the locals, in Scotland Labour have done appallingly.)

    It is great that Corbyn has shifted things the debate to the left and that Labour are now decidedly anti-austerity – whether Corbyn or Smith leads: the credit for that must go to members, members of the PLP like Khan who nominated him in order to widen the debate. But Corbyn will ensure another Tory victory. As someone who has just left teaching – a job I loved – because the Tories have wrecked it (half now leave in their first year) I really do not think our institutions can survive another Tory victory.

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    • Susan Russell · August 22, 2016

      I disagree, Mr Corbyn is extremely electable. It is the underhand briefing against him that is causing the unrest.
      The PLP should get behind their democratically elected leader.
      It is disgusting what is going on, this leadership challenge is a total waste of time and money.
      Constantly repeating the same trite reason is really boring,no one believes it not even the people saying it.
      Sorry to say, I believe Progress know they have lost this battle and are just biding their time until the next assault in September. Very wearing.

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    • Alan Ingram · August 22, 2016

      But Corbyn will ensure another Tory victory.
      I don’t know what subject you taught but I hope you didn’t show as little faith in your pupils abilities as you do in a half a million members ability to turn around the polls in 3 and a half years.

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      • Steve Rogers · August 23, 2016

        It’s unlikely that Labour will win the 2020 election, yes, but utterly impossible under Blairite leadership which has already lost the last two elections. Smith Xeroxing Corbyn’s policies isn’t fooling me – his leadership would be handed over to the right, his main body of support.

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    • Steve Rogers · August 23, 2016

      It’s impossible to know what Corbyn’s standing with the public would be if he hadn’t been undermined. The sad truth is that the PLP and the Party disagree on policy. The resolution of this problem is obviously to change the PLP, not alienate the body of the Party, and while this ugly process drags on, Labour’s poll ratings will be severely limited. A victory of the PLP over the membership would be the death of the Party.

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  34. elizapdushku · August 22, 2016

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  35. Paul · August 23, 2016

    Perfect response Chelley!

    Makes me wonder; why don’t the MSM and Blairites attack people who vote for The Green Party, for example, due to their supposed “unelectibility”?

    This is a rhetorical question, natch; the truth is that the “unelectible” claim often aimed at Corbyn is ‘nonsense narrative’ aimed at brain-washing the gullible.

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  36. therealmisterjones · August 23, 2016

    We keep seeing this ‘unelectable’ rubbish, yet we’ve won four mayoral elections and byelections under Mr Corbyn’s leadership. The right-wingers trying to undermine him have no place in a socialist party, they should go join one of the several neo-liberal parties we have in this country (though if they wish to remain part of the ‘establishment’ I recommend the Conservative Party). The Labour Party is now the largest political party in Europe, and Jeremy Corbyn (and his ideals) are the main reason for this. If you can’t get behind our democratically elected leader then get out. I didn’t vote for Corbyn last time round, but the PLP’s lack of respect for democracy has ensured that I will this time. You awoke a sleeping dragon, and it shall be thy undoing.

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  37. IsmailSatia · August 23, 2016

    Well said, exactly my thoughts

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